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Stairway to Heaven

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gabriel
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Putin umor, si nu, nu genul ala de ironie metafizica :-) "Stairway to Heaven" reinterpretata ca Obiectivism. De pe Internet ;-)

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There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold <- Rand professed optimism and wanted to switch to the gold standard
And she's buying a stairway to heaven. <- Materialism is good, money is a great definer of value
When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for.
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven.

There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings,
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven. <- For these last four, she attacked the use of double-meaning words like 'selfishness' to mean 'immoral', and said that our self-sacrificial ethics are completely false. She said that they're like this.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it makes me wonder. <- John Galt was the one who 'questioned your code of ethics'. They made him question them, wonder what was right.

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west, <- Praised the western world and the route American values of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And my spirit is crying for leaving. <- She ran from the Soviet Union and moved to the states.
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees, <- She witnessed people being prosecuted in the USSR
And the voices of those who standing looking. <- People watch, I guess.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it really makes me wonder. <- She wondered what the free world was like.

And it's whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason. <- She loved Aristotle and praised Objectivism as the 'philosophy of reason'
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter. <- She said that life was, at route, happy and humorous, and that any one who wants to have reason and live for them selves can have a virtuous life.

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on. <- You can, at any time, become rational, when, like John Galt says, you say that you will not live for another man or have one live for you.
And it makes me wonder.

Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know,
The piper's calling you to join him, <- Join the piper, her, and her former cult in Manhattan.
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind. <- Do you understand what's happening, Rand?

And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul. <- As time goes by and the light we block is greater than the best within us.
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold. <- Same thing with how she professed optimism and money and the gold standard and materialistic values.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last. <- If you think objectively, you will understand that each man is an end in him self.
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll. <- 'All are one and one is all' is evil collectivist morality. Don't conform to the opinion and oppression of the majority's morality. Be a human, but don't go with the crowd 'to be a rock and not to roll'

And she's buying a stairway to heaven. <- Same as earlier.

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#2
Victor
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gabriel a scris:

Putin umor, si nu, nu genul ala de ironie metafizica :-) "Stairway to Heaven" reinterpretata ca Obiectivism. De pe Internet ;-)

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Ar fi interesant sa putem consulta sursa originala...

Complemet de informatie, pentru cei mai putin familiarizati cu muzica pop (pe care AR nu o agrea, de altfel; dreptul ei) si/sau pentru cei care erau prea tineri in 1971:

"Led Zeppelin's fourth album crept into record stores the week of November 8,
1971. The only reference to "Stairway to Heaven" in the ROLLING STONE review
said that "some stuff [on the album] might actually be called shy and poetic
if it didn't carry itself off so well ('Stairway to Heaven' and 'Going to
California')..." The earliest, most serious attention paid to the song
appeared in college newspapers and obscure music rags. A writer for "The Gold
Coast Review" based in Connecticut said the song "builds gracefully from a
beautiful acoustic backing to a fast-moving electric finish. With each change
you wait for the explosion and it very gratifyingly comes... 'Stairway to
Heaven' is the best musical representation of an orgasm I've ever heard. ..."

Sursa: http://www.superseventies.com/stairway.html

Un link interesant, legat de aniversarea festivalului de la Woodstock:
http://ari.convio.net/site/News2?JServS ... _ctrl=1021

Un comentar interesant al articolului lui Ayn Rand referitor la Woodstock:

The star of this book is Rand's essay "Apollo and Dionysus," a comparison of the near-simultaneous events Woodstock and the first lunar landing. I was in high school at the time, and I remember the Woodstock explosion that occurred during the school year following the August concert, the remarkable number of classmates who adopted the hippie lifestyle and pretty much stopped doing any work whatever. One guy who'd been a valedictory prospect dropped right off the academic radar, probably due to drugs. Rand's suggestion that Woodstock represented an abandonment of reason is supported by on-scene reports of concert-goers who simply showed up with the clothes on their backs -- no plans for food, water, lodgings or anything, and the fact that concert organizers also neglected such essential considerations. The Woodstock army completely trashed the place, ending up wallowing in a big muddy mess while standing stupidly outside in the rain.

On the other hand, the lunar mission was a sterling example of human achievement driven by rationality, the culmination of the application of brainpower to a problem, and the success which resulted therefrom. Oh certainly, Rand drew (and draws) a lot of fire, but she was absolutely correct in her belief that upgrades of our human condition will only be developed by people who think and act, and not by herds of hippies standing in the rain.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 7?v=glance


 
   
#3
gabriel
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Era o gluma vis-a-vis de injectarea unui continut ideologic in arta. O sa caut sursa insa mai mult nu scria. Mi s-a parut interesant, cumva ca ironie dar nu numai.

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#4
Victor
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gabriel a scris:

Era o gluma vis-a-vis de injectarea unui continut ideologic in arta. O sa caut sursa insa mai mult nu scria. Mi s-a parut interesant, cumva ca ironie dar nu numai.


Nu scria unde?

Eu prin indicarea sursei inteleg indicarea adresei pe Web (in termeni tehnici un URL) a paginii de unde ati preluat textul. Banuiesc ca nu ati transcris textul din memorie sau ca l-ati copiat de pe o hartie (sau ca l-ati conservat intr-un fisier, fara referinta la original), dar pot sa ma insel. Daca nu ma insel, adresa ar trebui sa va stea la indemana si ati putea avea amabilitatea sa ne-o comunicati in raspuns.

Imi permit si observatia ca citarea surselor este o obligatie, pe care nu cred ca este cazul sa o explic (o fac desigur, daca este nevoie).


 
   
#5
gabriel
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/64329

^ adresa originala

E vorba de umor, insa nu in sensul de "ironie metafizica". Poate asta ar trebui sa fie o tema pentru alt thread: de ce Ayn Rand avea idei foarte restransa referitor la ce sunt umorul, distractia si arta?

Pe de alta parte, nu as vrea sa intinez forumul acesta virginal cu ganduri sincere, intrebari incomode, umor si alt comportament "imoral" precum gandirea libera. :-)


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#6
Ana
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te victimizezi si nu-i frumos...

din categoria umor negru:
piesa de teatru scrisa de Murray Rothbard.
man worship: un articol


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